Sunday 5 June 2016

P.3 a pill won't corect it, Doctors wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Posted 19 August 2015 - 04:34 PM
    I had internal tremors when I tapered off my antidepressants.  A constant buzz.  They started within days to a week or so after beginning to taper off of Lamotrigine, Sertraline, Gabepentin, and Trazadone.   I also had some hand tremors, and when upset, my head would shake.  This went on for months.  My Aunt has essential tremors, as did her Mom.  My psychiatrist said that I also had them, when I asked whether the WD could cause the tremors.  He had me go to the Mayo to see my Aunt's neurologist and after quite a battery of tests, they determined that the tremors "were caused by anxiety."  I asked him whether WD from the AD could cause it and he said no.  I saw the head Psychiatrist at the Mayo, and he said anxiety was the cause, that they were absolutely not caused by WD.  I know what anxiety feels like, and these tremors were not anxiety.  NO WAY.  The tremors were no more or less active when I was stressed.  A constant.

    Anyhow, after several months of being off of most of the AD (you see, I was on 4 different meds) they went away.

    Now I am tapering from Klonopin.  I now have tics, not the same thing.  I can control them to some degree, but my body wants to move, and it is too much work to fight them.  They bother me mostly only when I try to relax.  It's like if my brain is busy moving my body intentionally, it doesn't need to fire the tics.  If I try to relax, my brain doesn't want to, and I start having tics in my neck and head.  They are much worse when I am anxious, and when I'm really upset, they are so strong that they hurt and cause cramping.

    It never ceases to amaze me how even the doctors at the Mayo Clinic refuse to recognize these WD symptoms.  Why?


    #74 downtongirl

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    Posted 05 January 2016 - 02:19 PM
    Would love to know how long this lasted for you if you suffered with it
    1995 - 2015 antidepressants and antianxiety medicine
    Unsuccessful rapid taper per doctors tapering schedule 2008 had to reinstate after one month
    Second unsuccessful taper per doctors tapering schedule 2011 had to reinstate after one month
    Third unsuccessful taper per my own tapering schedule 12/14 had to reinstate after 2 weeks
    Finished 4th discontinuation September 2015 did really well until 1/16
    Failed Prozac reinstatement 1/16
    Hospitalization 2 x 1/16 and 2/16 doctors take me off of anti d.'s and put me on lamictal and lyrica
    4/16 had to go back onto effexor at 150 mg
    current meds...75 mg of lamictal, 50 mg of lyrics 2 x a day, 150 mg of effexor xr, vitamin b6, b12 methyl, c, d, zinc, fish oil, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, coq10
    Not sure what I am...just trying to stabilize I guess

     


    #75 manymoretodays

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    Posted 05 January 2016 - 03:15 PM
    I am suffering with that lately.  I believe I have had it in the past too.  It should remit after a couple of months I hope.  Mine feels related to my body temperature.  The outward shakes.  Like shivering but not quite the same.

    The inward shakes are weird.  Good description.  And timely, as I do know exactly what you mean.

    Trembling I mean.
    Started with psycho meds circa 1988 I think 27 or 28 total.
    AD's, antpsychotics, antiseizure mood stabilizers, Klonipin a couple of times, Stimulants, some med. for narcolepsy once?, Gabapentin........probably more.  Maybe I will list them all in my journal.  Ask me?......I probably was on it.  Haphazard W/D's.
    10/2014- off Lexapro--had been on highest dose 10 mg. then 5 mg. for a couple of years, went from 5 mg. to 3 mg. liquid and then CT in hospital.
    5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

    12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxycarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!

    3/21/2016---I did some unwise updosing of trileptal with some stressful stuff......doubled the above dose x2 during this last wave but began liquifying again and on approximately 68mg. starting today.  5/13/2016- 60 mg. trileptal!!!! 5/29/16- 50 mg. trileptal....oh wait, it's at 54mg. now  :-( :-0
    Supplements and other stuff still kind of variable but trying to record and discover best effects for me.........using both omega3's again and more magnesium citrate(contents of a 300mg. capsule) diluted in a liter of H2O(that I can shake up.....it usually dissolves more completely as the water gets down to room temperature).  Totally ready for a good long window to hit soon and getting better full days and partial days along the way.  Definite improvement overall since I first arrived on the SA survivor ship.
     


    #76 downtongirl

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    Posted 05 January 2016 - 03:27 PM
    Thank you for your reply...how long did your trembling last?
    1995 - 2015 antidepressants and antianxiety medicine
    Unsuccessful rapid taper per doctors tapering schedule 2008 had to reinstate after one month
    Second unsuccessful taper per doctors tapering schedule 2011 had to reinstate after one month
    Third unsuccessful taper per my own tapering schedule 12/14 had to reinstate after 2 weeks
    Finished 4th discontinuation September 2015 did really well until 1/16
    Failed Prozac reinstatement 1/16
    Hospitalization 2 x 1/16 and 2/16 doctors take me off of anti d.'s and put me on lamictal and lyrica
    4/16 had to go back onto effexor at 150 mg
    current meds...75 mg of lamictal, 50 mg of lyrics 2 x a day, 150 mg of effexor xr, vitamin b6, b12 methyl, c, d, zinc, fish oil, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, coq10
    Not sure what I am...just trying to stabilize I guess

     


    #77 manymoretodays

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    Posted 05 January 2016 - 04:01 PM
    It comes and goes throughout the day now.  The inner might be related to the gut somehow I think.

    I don't know how long really as I just realized I've had this before.  But it's gone away.  I hope it's the dissipation of the anxiety for good!
    Started with psycho meds circa 1988 I think 27 or 28 total.
    AD's, antpsychotics, antiseizure mood stabilizers, Klonipin a couple of times, Stimulants, some med. for narcolepsy once?, Gabapentin........probably more.  Maybe I will list them all in my journal.  Ask me?......I probably was on it.  Haphazard W/D's.
    10/2014- off Lexapro--had been on highest dose 10 mg. then 5 mg. for a couple of years, went from 5 mg. to 3 mg. liquid and then CT in hospital.
    5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

    12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxycarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!

    3/21/2016---I did some unwise updosing of trileptal with some stressful stuff......doubled the above dose x2 during this last wave but began liquifying again and on approximately 68mg. starting today.  5/13/2016- 60 mg. trileptal!!!! 5/29/16- 50 mg. trileptal....oh wait, it's at 54mg. now  :-( :-0
    Supplements and other stuff still kind of variable but trying to record and discover best effects for me.........using both omega3's again and more magnesium citrate(contents of a 300mg. capsule) diluted in a liter of H2O(that I can shake up.....it usually dissolves more completely as the water gets down to room temperature).  Totally ready for a good long window to hit soon and getting better full days and partial days along the way.  Definite improvement overall since I first arrived on the SA survivor ship.
     


    #78 downtongirl

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    Posted 05 January 2016 - 04:03 PM
    I hope you are right I hope your anxiety is gone for good
    1995 - 2015 antidepressants and antianxiety medicine
    Unsuccessful rapid taper per doctors tapering schedule 2008 had to reinstate after one month
    Second unsuccessful taper per doctors tapering schedule 2011 had to reinstate after one month
    Third unsuccessful taper per my own tapering schedule 12/14 had to reinstate after 2 weeks
    Finished 4th discontinuation September 2015 did really well until 1/16
    Failed Prozac reinstatement 1/16
    Hospitalization 2 x 1/16 and 2/16 doctors take me off of anti d.'s and put me on lamictal and lyrica
    4/16 had to go back onto effexor at 150 mg
    current meds...75 mg of lamictal, 50 mg of lyrics 2 x a day, 150 mg of effexor xr, vitamin b6, b12 methyl, c, d, zinc, fish oil, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, coq10
    Not sure what I am...just trying to stabilize I guess

     


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    Posted 06 January 2016 - 09:05 AM
    Use the search function at for this forum or enter the following in Google.. survivingantidepressants.org: trembling  There is a thread on this that is THREE pages long!

    Thanks
    As always, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! A proud supporter of the 10% (or slower) rule.
     
    Requip - 3/16 ZERO  Total time on 25 years.
     
    Lyrica: 8/15 ZERO Total time on 7 or 8 yrs.

    BENZO FREE 10/13 (started tapering 7/10)  Total time on 25 years.
     
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    Posted 06 January 2016 - 10:20 AM
    Found it! 
    Started with psycho meds circa 1988 I think 27 or 28 total.
    AD's, antpsychotics, antiseizure mood stabilizers, Klonipin a couple of times, Stimulants, some med. for narcolepsy once?, Gabapentin........probably more.  Maybe I will list them all in my journal.  Ask me?......I probably was on it.  Haphazard W/D's.
    10/2014- off Lexapro--had been on highest dose 10 mg. then 5 mg. for a couple of years, went from 5 mg. to 3 mg. liquid and then CT in hospital.
    5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

    12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxycarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!

    3/21/2016---I did some unwise updosing of trileptal with some stressful stuff......doubled the above dose x2 during this last wave but began liquifying again and on approximately 68mg. starting today.  5/13/2016- 60 mg. trileptal!!!! 5/29/16- 50 mg. trileptal....oh wait, it's at 54mg. now  :-( :-0
    Supplements and other stuff still kind of variable but trying to record and discover best effects for me.........using both omega3's again and more magnesium citrate(contents of a 300mg. capsule) diluted in a liter of H2O(that I can shake up.....it usually dissolves more completely as the water gets down to room temperature).  Totally ready for a good long window to hit soon and getting better full days and partial days along the way.  Definite improvement overall since I first arrived on the SA survivor ship.
     


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    Posted 06 January 2016 - 10:23 AM
    But it is good when those who ask the questions learn how to find the answers themselves, n'est-ce pas?

    That said, good for you manymore!  :wub:
    As always, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! A proud supporter of the 10% (or slower) rule.
     
    Requip - 3/16 ZERO  Total time on 25 years.
     
    Lyrica: 8/15 ZERO Total time on 7 or 8 yrs.

    BENZO FREE 10/13 (started tapering 7/10)  Total time on 25 years.
     
    Read my intro thread here, and check the about me section.  "No matter how cynical you get, it's almost impossible to keep up." Lily Tomlin

     


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    Posted 06 January 2016 - 10:40 AM
    Oui !

    I like your avatar.  I must keep trying to just get going again.  So hard after "feeling" so close for what "seemed like" so long.  I keep saying to myself "you know the drill" over and over.

    Hopefully dowtongirl will find her way over.  Vagus nerve?  Withdrawal symptoms are so much fun.

    I don't have the answers but I've had most of the symptoms now.  Several times over.  Music is starting to help.  With earbuds.
    Started with psycho meds circa 1988 I think 27 or 28 total.
    AD's, antpsychotics, antiseizure mood stabilizers, Klonipin a couple of times, Stimulants, some med. for narcolepsy once?, Gabapentin........probably more.  Maybe I will list them all in my journal.  Ask me?......I probably was on it.  Haphazard W/D's.
    10/2014- off Lexapro--had been on highest dose 10 mg. then 5 mg. for a couple of years, went from 5 mg. to 3 mg. liquid and then CT in hospital.
    5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

    12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxycarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!

    3/21/2016---I did some unwise updosing of trileptal with some stressful stuff......doubled the above dose x2 during this last wave but began liquifying again and on approximately 68mg. starting today.  5/13/2016- 60 mg. trileptal!!!! 5/29/16- 50 mg. trileptal....oh wait, it's at 54mg. now  :-( :-0
    Supplements and other stuff still kind of variable but trying to record and discover best effects for me.........using both omega3's again and more magnesium citrate(contents of a 300mg. capsule) diluted in a liter of H2O(that I can shake up.....it usually dissolves more completely as the water gets down to room temperature).  Totally ready for a good long window to hit soon and getting better full days and partial days along the way.  Definite improvement overall since I first arrived on the SA survivor ship.
     


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    Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:23 PM
    manymoretodays, on 06 Jan 2016 - 7:40 PM, said:
    Oui !

    I like your avatar.  I must keep trying to just get going again.  So hard after "feeling" so close for what "seemed like" so long.  I keep saying to myself "you know the drill" over and over.

    Hopefully dowtongirl will find her way over.  Vagus nerve?  Withdrawal symptoms are so much fun.

    I don't have the answers but I've had most of the symptoms now.  Several times over.  Music is starting to help.  With earbuds.
    Try sounds of the ocean it was the only thing that helped me early on.
    WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
    Had a car accident in 85
    Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
    Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
    Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
    One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.
    As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey.
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