Ileocecial valve, Candida and misaliigned Atlas?????????????

For many of you the following information will help you more than anything else you have tried to regain your health because you will be able to finally be treating the underlying cause of your health problems. It has for me and if you take the time to do a little research it will for many of you too. You can greatly relieve your candida, detox symptoms, allergies, and other diseases by self-treating a little known part of the body called the ileocecal valve. Best of all you don't need to spend a bunch of money, buy a bunch of supplmenets or anything like that. I've suffered from candida for over 30 years which has lead to allergies, prostate weakness, and overall tiredness. No matter what diet I was on or what supplements I took nothing helped. What compounded the problem is that after a while I would have a chronic pain in my lower right abdomen that would flare up anytime I took a product that was designed to get rid of candida! It also hurt intermittently based on different foods that I ate. Came to find out that the cause of this problem was a little discussed yet critical component to the human digestive system. Don't think that you don't have an ileocecal valve problem if you don't have pain in your lower right abdomen. Lot of people feel no pain yet still have their ileocecal valve weakened. A weakened ileocecal valve will either lock open or lock closed. This is where many health problems begin. About 90% of the people who have weakened ileocecal valve have it lock open. This creates a crisis in the body as the digested materials in your large intestine keep backing up into your small intenstine. This then feeds your candida, leaks toxic waste into your blood stream and in effect poisons you. That is where all your disease and illnesses emanate from!! I started treating my ileocecal valve in late fall and many of my symptoms and physical problems have significantly lessened. candida symptoms lessened, nasal allergies diminished, prostate problems diminished and interestingly when I fell of my candida diet during the holidays and ate things like chocolate I had no lightheaded or dizzy feeling like in the past. When I went back on the candida diet no "die off" symptoms!!! It is like my gut is "sealed up". Having a sealed gut would greatly reduce the detox symptoms people feel when chelating their mercury and other metals. I now understand my underlying health problem and am now treating THAT. This is why I found this forum as my research led to the realization that the toxic mercury greatly weaknes ileocecal valve function. Here's some info about ileocecal valve that I pasted from another website that provides a descriptive about the ileocecal valve involvement with candida: "Another way the candida yeast can become active is when your ileocecal valve is weakened. The ileocecal valve is located between your small-intestine and your large intestine. This valve is usually kept closed so that the food you've eaten stays in your small intestine long enough to be digested and absorbed fully. It also prevents the good microorganisms in your large intestine from getting into your small intestine, where their waste products could easily be absorbed. As digestion and absorption are completed in your small intestine, your ileoceeal valve opens, and the food that hasn't been digested and absorbed passes into your large intestine. When your ileoceeal valve is weakened, it doesn't function properly, and the yeast and bacteria that live in the large intestine get through the valve and up into your small intestine--where they're not supposed to be--and become "bad guys." The alkaline pH of the small intestine allows the yeast to multiply vigorously, causing havoc to your system (see "Bad Times" below). As you can guess, when any of these things happen, it can lead to numerous health problems." I'm going to post more information and specifics about my treatment and experiences regarding the hiatal hernia/ileocecal valve treatment that I've received when more time allows. Hope this information helps you! If you have any questions or have any experiences or information that would help us, please join in. I'd highly recommend everyone who has disease and health problems to investigate more information on the ileocecal valve via internet search. There's also an excellent book available from Amazon on the subject that I bought which explains how to treat your ileocecal valve by self-massage, cold packs, reflex points, etc. It is called "Gut Feeling".

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#31504 - 02/04/08 05:24 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease kriminal Graduate Member Registered: 07/17/07 Posts: 122 So what did you use to treat your ileocecal valve? What worked for you Top

#31505 - 02/04/08 06:57 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Quote: So what did you use to treat your ileocecal valve? What worked for you Here's a great link that details ileocecal valve: http://healing.about.com/cs/conditions/a/aa_ileocecal.htm Well first of all you want to eliminate all food you are allergic to as all of these irritate the ileocecal valve. I'm so sensitive that I'm able to weed it out by how it feels after eating. Other people who aren't as sensitive need to be allergy tested to find out what their allergens are and stay away from them. This is pretty basic and most people who are serious about getting well already know that. Second of all you want to follow an "ileocecal diet". There's places on the web that have recommendations. Stay away from raw fruits and vegetables for a couple weeks as well as popcorn, all chips, coffee, sweets, breads, in other devitalized foods. Steamed veggies, chicken, turkey are best. Stop all supplements or at least grind them down as pills can irritate and in some cases clog the valve. It comes down to common sense to a certain extent regarding what you put in your mouth. Anything to the touch that is rough, hard to chew, etc. you stay away from. The ileocecal valve is located 2 inches in from your right hip. If you take your forefinger and middle finger of your right hand and push in and feel around you will find it. It feels like a soft lump. If it is sensitive or sore when you push in then you most definitely have an ileocecal problem. What I usually do is massage it in a circular motion 100-150 times, 3 times/day. There's also pressure points on the body that you use a golfball or your fingertips on. The problem I see on this forum is that a heckuva lot of the problems I read sound like they may very well be ileocecal valve dysfunction and all the supplements, chelation therapy, etc. are counterproductive at worst and at best it is a lot of people spending a lot of money and pills and other treatments and putting themselves through agony to treat symptoms and not the underlying problem which is ileocecal valve dysfunction. Everyone here with allergies, candida, autoimmune problems here really needs to research ileocecal valve and see if that is really their underlying problem and treat it accordingly. You can take supplments, buy air and water purifiers, zappers, foot patches and all those other treatments until you are broke and ready to jump out a window but if ileocecal dysfunction is your underlying problem you will never get well. Top

#31506 - 02/04/08 07:08 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Btw, toxins, detergents, chemicals, etc. really weaken ileocecal valve. Even supplements can weaken ileocecal valve. When I read people saying how bad their detox systems are that tells me that their ileocecal is probably leaking and their waste material is not passing through their system like it should, it is being dumped into their bloodstream premature. Anyone who takes out their amalgams probably has a lot of strain put on their ileocecal valve already. Then bombarding it with all these supplments and chelation therapy is bodyslamming their ICV where it isn't functioning properly. Top

#31507 - 02/04/08 07:14 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease SomedaySoon Master Veteran Registered: 05/16/06 Posts: 328 In addition to the excellent information James provided, I just thought I'd add that there is a book called "Eating Alive," by Dr. John Matsen, N.D. In his book he focuses alot of the illeocecal valve issue. And he feels strongly that addressing this issue will help in eliminating candida problems. He also talks into metal toxicities as well. Our Forum friend, Sandi Flood, was able to get her candida under control finally by doing an antifungal diet, natural antifungals and also following Dr. Matsen's recommendations. If memory serves, alot of the recommendations were along the lines of trying to eat in season. She did antifungal protocols for a couple of years but did not get her candida problem under control until she address the illeocecal valve problem and did some heavy metal detox. Sandi would have been so happy to see this post from you James. She insisted that addressing the IV issue was crucial in dealing with candida. Deal with the IV issue and then do the detox. Here's a link to his site in case anyone is interested: http://www.ndaccess.com/EatingAlive/Page.asp?PageID=5 On a personal note, I've had my illeocecal valve tested via Applied Kinesiology and also by ART (autonomic response testing) and also via electrodermal testing with BioSET. My valve, at least at the time of testing, always tested ok. I now know that in my case my candida will not resolve until I get rid on my metal burden (mercury, lead and cadmium). And in my case, I simply can't do that effectively until I get a handle of and get rid of the surplus bacterial infections (lyme, Bartonella). I'm hoping that once I get started on that, then my body will allow me to slowly and carefully begin to chelate. Unfortunately, I'm so ill that I need to be under a doctor's care for this. Wish I could do it all on my own. But the new doc I'll be seeing is certified in chelation therapies and also is a lyme and Tick Borne Disease doc. Fingers crossed everything will fall into place! Golly it sure is hard to work to get ourselves well, isn't it?! And answers don't come easily sometimes. Good luck with your amalgam removal, James. Let us know how you do, ok? Sharon Top

#31508 - 02/04/08 07:27 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease kriminal Graduate Member Registered: 07/17/07 Posts: 122 Thanks a lot for the info, cannot believe I almost missed this thread I think I could definitely have this, after using sistemic antifungals and no sugar I still have a lot of candida and parasites, if the valve is open then it would be like throwing a cup of water to stop a forest fire. I have a fast metabolism which lets me eat A LOT, and I usually eat very fast while under chewing. After reading on this, it seems it can aggravate this Top

#31509 - 02/04/08 07:31 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease SomedaySoon Master Veteran Registered: 05/16/06 Posts: 328 I've also just remembered that Dr. Matsen put Sandi on a liquid Calcium/Magnesium supplement. I recall in his book that he said that Calcium/Magnesium (particularly the Calcium) is needed to restore and strengthen and tone the ileocecal valve. The liquid form was needed because of what James explained above. If the valve isn't working properly it can't deal with the supps. in pill or capsule form. Sharon Top

#31510 - 02/05/08 02:21 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease mati Graduate Member Registered: 11/03/07 Posts: 193 Loc: UK James Thanks for this information, it looks very interesting. Can you remember the name of the author of the book ' Gut feelings' please? Top

#31511 - 02/05/08 04:48 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Quote: James Thanks for this information, it looks very interesting. Can you remember the name of the author of the book ' Gut feelings' please? Hi Mati, the book "Gut Feeling" is written by Gary Richer and available on Amazon for only $9.95. It is an easy read which you can complete in a couple of hours. I very highly recommend it as a possible solution to anyone suffering candida, allergy, severe detox systems or autoimmune problems. Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/Gut-Feeling-Creating-Ileocecal-ILLUSTRATED/dp/0741426854 Top

#31512 - 02/05/08 04:58 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Hi Sharon, always a pleasure. Read about Sandi, very sorry to hear about her passing. Pleased to know that I'm carrying on her spirit in some way with this discussion about Ileocecal Valve and its role in the human body. Since you've been tested then you are good to go. That was very astute of you because now you are sure that a very important component in the health process is in good condition so it will be an ally in your healing. I'm really looking forward to getting these amalgams out tomorrow as there's high certainty that the mercury is the root cause of my ileocecal valve dysfunction. Hope your healing continues to progress and look forward to hearing about your future health and treatment. Top

#31513 - 02/05/08 05:01 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Quote: I've also just remembered that Dr. Matsen put Sandi on a liquid Calcium/Magnesium supplement. I recall in his book that he said that Calcium/Magnesium (particularly the Calcium) is needed to restore and strengthen and tone the ileocecal valve. The liquid form was needed because of what James explained above. If the valve isn't working properly it can't deal with the supps. in pill or capsule form. Sharon Sharon, thank you for this information I didn't know that. I'm so hypersensitive (most probably due to the mercury in my body) that I'm unable to take any supplements whatsoever at this point but will keep this in mind. Top

#31514 - 02/05/08 05:14 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Quote: Thanks a lot for the info, cannot believe I almost missed this thread I think I could definitely have this, after using sistemic antifungals and no sugar I still have a lot of candida and parasites, if the valve is open then it would be like throwing a cup of water to stop a forest fire. I have a fast metabolism which lets me eat A LOT, and I usually eat very fast while under chewing. After reading on this, it seems it can aggravate this kriminal, anti-candida and anti-fungals can actually irritate the ileocecal valve which then feeds your candida so in effect they can do the direct opposite of what you are trying to accomplish. Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) is an irritant to the ileocecal valve as are most supplements, cleaning fluids, etc. I was feeling real good there and even tho was eating a diet with only protein and steam green vegetables my ileocecal valve felt sore. Then I realized that I was using a hypoallergenic dish cleansing detergent that had coconut oil in it. As you know coconut oil is an anti-fungal/anti-candida product. Went to the health store, got another product without any coconut oil and I'm fine. So you can see it is not just eating irritants it is in being exposed to them also. Btw onions, Garlic and spices are extreme irritants to the ileocecal valve. As you can see a lot irritates the ICV. I'm thinking that the mercury amalgams irritate the ICV so much making it hypersensitive that it causes so many more things to become problems. When you have a weakened ICV your body really isn't absorbing the nutrients in your food or the supplements you take. When I started treating my ICV I immediatley started feeling better. Then shortly thereafter the holidays came and I fell off the candida diet but I STILL felt better than I ever did on the candida diet. More energy, better sleep, vastly more bowel movements, happier. Hope this information is beneficial. Top

#31515 - 02/05/08 06:41 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease mati Graduate Member Registered: 11/03/07 Posts: 193 Loc: UK Thanks James. Does it matter which edition you get? Will any advertised be OK? I have found it for £5 in the UK. Top

#31516 - 02/05/08 09:23 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Quote: Thanks James. Does it matter which edition you get? Will any advertised be OK? I have found it for £5 in the UK. Hi Mati, I guess anytime you buy a book it is always best to get the latest edition but if that is the only one you can find don't let it hold you back. Unfortunately I've temporarily misplaced my copy but will look for it and when found we can compare notes. I've been researching and experiencing ICV dysfunction for quite a while now and feel I'm very well versed so I will answer any questions you have and help any way I can. My extreme sensitivity is a curse but it is also a gift because I can feel everything that causes me problems so in that way it also provides enlightenment. Top

#31517 - 02/06/08 08:14 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease kriminal Graduate Member Registered: 07/17/07 Posts: 122 Quote: Quote: Thanks a lot for the info, cannot believe I almost missed this thread I think I could definitely have this, after using sistemic antifungals and no sugar I still have a lot of candida and parasites, if the valve is open then it would be like throwing a cup of water to stop a forest fire. I have a fast metabolism which lets me eat A LOT, and I usually eat very fast while under chewing. After reading on this, it seems it can aggravate this kriminal, anti-candida and anti-fungals can actually irritate the ileocecal valve which then feeds your candida so in effect they can do the direct opposite of what you are trying to accomplish. Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) is an irritant to the ileocecal valve as are most supplements, cleaning fluids, etc. I was feeling real good there and even tho was eating a diet with only protein and steam green vegetables my ileocecal valve felt sore. Then I realized that I was using a hypoallergenic dish cleansing detergent that had coconut oil in it. As you know coconut oil is an anti-fungal/anti-candida product. Went to the health store, got another product without any coconut oil and I'm fine. So you can see it is not just eating irritants it is in being exposed to them also. Btw onions, Garlic and spices are extreme irritants to the ileocecal valve. As you can see a lot irritates the ICV. I'm thinking that the mercury amalgams irritate the ICV so much making it hypersensitive that it causes so many more things to become problems. When you have a weakened ICV your body really isn't absorbing the nutrients in your food or the supplements you take. When I started treating my ICV I immediatley started feeling better. Then shortly thereafter the holidays came and I fell off the candida diet but I STILL felt better than I ever did on the candida diet. More energy, better sleep, vastly more bowel movements, happier. Hope this information is beneficial. Yes it is very beneficial. As for diet, what foods do not aggravate this? most of the info I searched seems to general. I will stop supplements (which lately I have been popping like candy hoping to control candida ) and start massages to the valve. Now I just need to know what to eat. Should I just ignore candida guidelines (while still trying to minimize sugar) and eat foods that help with the ICV? Top

#31518 - 02/06/08 09:06 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 kriminal, first of all I'd like to ask what type of discomfort you feel if any. When I'm exposed to a chemical for instance I feel pain around my right abdomen and then shortly thereafter in my prostate. The reason why I ask that is that it is your guide that will tell you what is irritating your ICV as you proceed. It will also help in pointing you in the right direction. Sorry, not familiar if you are a many or woman but if you have prostatitis or vaginitis then there's a high probability that you have ICV dysfunction. When exposed to an irritants the ICV continually leaks into the private parts causing discomfort and yeast problems. Real hot or real cold foods irritate the ICV, make sure you are drinking pure water (preferably spring water) that isn't fortified by miinerals. Lot of minerals irritate the ICV including Calcium supplement type products. That includes dicalcium phosphate that is used in a lot of the soy/rice milk type products. Don't eat anything canned or packaged, stay with the basics: chicken, turkey, steamed veggies. To get started your best bet is chicken, turkey, steamed veggies. I'd stay away from brown rice as it is very abrasive. Brown rice pasta is okay. The best way in any of these type of exploratory diets is to start out with foods you know you aren't allergic to and that aren't irritants. I'd go a couple days with just baked chicken and turkey with steamed veggies and see how you feel. Make sure you cook in glass and not metal containers and change over your utensils to wood or bambo as metal is a known irritant as has been pointed out by others here on the forum.. There's a company here in the states that I ordered bamboo knife/fork/spoon sets for only $1.95 each. You will have to be vigilant about the type of soaps and cleaners you use as the chemicals are all irritants. You can buy plant-based cleaners at your health store including for cleaning your clothes. Don't wear perfume or cologne. Don't use any deodorants and change your toothpaste also at the health store. Eat all organic food as possible as the chemicals in regular food are irritants. Don't eat any citrus as they are irritants. If you do this for a few days you should start feeling better than you have in a long time unless there's an irritant you are exposed to that you haven't identified as yet. Top

#31519 - 02/10/08 09:15 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease treva Senior Member Registered: 02/11/07 Posts: 88 Loc: Ohio James, I would like to thank you for the information, It really helped me!! After I read your post, I researched on the ileocecal valve and found that could be my problem. I have a friend who run's a health food store and she had most helpful information. I believe that this has been my problem for 3-4 months now. I had tried everything!!!! My digestive problem has been the worse. I have a feeling of food being stuck in my throat. I drank a glass of water before bed the other night and when I layed down, I could feel cold water come back up. I have been massaging the area and jumping on a trampoline, which my friend suggested. I went to the doctor a couple of week's ago about my throat being soar and a feeling of food being stuck in my throat. He offered a cortizone shot, I declined!!!! I'm not interested in steroids the least bit. Then he said over the counter zantac might give me relief. I of course wanted nothing to do with anything that he offered. I basically wasted my money!!! Thank's for your information, It's better than the doctors _________________________ Treva Top

#31520 - 02/10/08 10:09 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease SoSick Premier Veteran Registered: 04/07/07 Posts: 2158 Loc: Lost on a mountain USA When I read this post the first time I went to google and searched 'ileocecal valve' and I cam eacross bunches of photos, real photos taken internally, of ileocecal valve problems... and, now I could be wrong, but it looked to me like the photos showed excessive waste in the colon causing the ileocecal valve problems. All the photos showed a lot of poop directly behind the valve making it difficult for the valve to stay closed. Which leads me to wonder if you have ever considered a colon cleanse routine to help resolve these problems. parasites also seem to be indicated in these situations. Top

#31521 - 02/10/08 10:14 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease treva Senior Member Registered: 02/11/07 Posts: 88 Loc: Ohio SoSick, Now that you mention the colon cleanse, I was doing a parasite cleanse when all these problems came about. It started with vertigo which I'm no stranger to. Then my lips began peeling and itching. The doctor diagnosed me with dermatitis. What kind of colon cleanse would you recommend? I've never done one, this could possibly be the root of the problem. Thank you Sosick!! _________________________ Treva Top

#31522 - 02/10/08 10:31 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease SoSick Premier Veteran Registered: 04/07/07 Posts: 2158 Loc: Lost on a mountain USA We've been discussing and relaying our experiences with parasite and colon cleansing in this thread here: http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB16&Number=250446&Main=243438#Post250446 there's a lot of chit chat in there too, makes us feel better I guess, but you can read through and find lots of great parasite cleanse info, colon cleanse and liver cleanse info too. Sunshine and i have been pretty much on similar tracks there... starting mainly with trying to get our pets healthy, of all things, leading to parasite and colon cleanisng for our selves. there are various options. At current i am doing some colon cleanse herbs and a high enema routine... I need to really really keep the mercury and toxins from accumulating in my colon, most of my problems seem to start there when stuff starts sticking around for too long. I also went in for a short series of professional hydrotherapy (colonics) sessions last summer. The colon cleansing has helped me enormously. Other people have mentioned lip conditions while doing parasite cleanses. i haven't experience that but i do know for sure that you should do a liver cleanse and i would highly recommend colon cleansing after a parasite cleanse. A lot of the dead stuff gets stuck down there if you don't flush it out, and essentially, if you leave it there it will just rot for a long time and continue to keep you clogged up. Top

#31523 - 02/10/08 11:13 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease treva Senior Member Registered: 02/11/07 Posts: 88 Loc: Ohio SoSick, I will try the colon cleanse!! I read your's and sunshines posts, they are very interesting to me. I have some of the smooth move tea that you spoke of. I think I might try it today, have you tried it before? I talked with my friend at the health food store about a liver cleanse, she recommended phos and apple cider. Did any of this affect you while you were working? I guess I need to bite the bullet and just do it. What did the other people say about their lip problems? I looked on the internet to see if anything matched my lip problem do to a parasite cleanse and never found anything on it. It drives me crazy!!! I noticed around that time of the month that my lips get worse. My friend at the health food store seem's to think that it's a digestive issue!! I know that a colon cleanse would do me good, I detox with NCD everyday!! Thank's SoSick for the info, I love this forum!!! _________________________ Treva Top

#31524 - 02/10/08 01:41 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 treva, glad my info helped you!! Let me also say that based on your feeling that food is stuck in your throat it sounds very much like hiatal hernia. In fact that is the classic symptom !! Hiatal hernia isn't as bad as it sounds, it is basically the stomach moving out of its place up toward the food pipe and messing up your digestion. It is treatable with diet. Not sure about the trampoline, but that is probably a good idea haven't seen that recommended anywhere. But the self treatment I have seen recommended for hiatal hernia is upon arising drink 8 ounces of warm water. Then rise up on your tippy toes and drop down on your heels real fast. Do that 3 times. This causes the stomach to drop back down where it belongs and works very well. Before you start any time of program of cleanse I suggest you research hiatal hernia also. Sosick has some great information and cleanses are usually beneficial but hiatal hernia and ileocecal valve problems can cause sensitivities that can be exacerbated but various herbs and other materials used so I think it would be prudent for you to check that out first. Plenty of water and proper diet will address the problem Sosick mentioned about any food blocking the ileocecal. So best to start there first. Hiatal hernia and ileocecal valve are interrelated so if you have one you most likely also have the other. I've noticed personally that if I eat foods that exacerbate my hiatal hernia (fatty foods) then my ileocecal becomes a problem and vice versa. Top

#31525 - 02/10/08 02:46 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease treva Senior Member Registered: 02/11/07 Posts: 88 Loc: Ohio James, Thank's for the info once again!! I've had problems taking herbal fiber blend here lately. Normally it regulates me nicely, I'm thinking now that the herbs in it are irritating my problem. You mentioned that different herbs irritate the ileocecal valve. When I was doing the parasite cleanse I became constipated. Shortly after that my lip problem, then problems digesting and the feeling of food stuck in my throat. I quit the parasite cleanse because it seemed to irritate things more. Since that I've been bothered by these things. It's been three months!! What kind of diet do you recommend for the hital hernia? I've felt better since I've been doing the massaging for my valve, so I know that is a deffinent. Is this something that I will be bothered with on and off? Or is this something that can be corrected and maintained? Do you think my lips are related to this problem? I would appreciate any input that you have _________________________ Treva Top

#31526 - 02/10/08 03:29 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 treva, here's a good link on hiatal hernia with diet tips: http://heartburn.about.com/od/hiatalhern2/a/hernia_diet.htm Also, don't do any heavy lifting or bending over for an hour or so after eating. To be quite honest with you try laying off any lifting or bending at all for a few days and see how you feel. When I drop somethiing I get a chair to sit in then pick it up. Those fibers and herbal products will cause your ileocecal to lock open. Thats what causes constipation. From what I've seen too many candida diets fail because the number 1 priority should be to have the stomach and instestines working mechanically before rigid candida diets are undertaken. I went from 4-6 BMs per week to having 10-20/week by just focusing on my hiatal hernia and ileocecal valve. Another sure sign of ileocecal valve problems is BMs that come out real thin without a lot of volume. When the ileocecal is functioning properly the BMs become thicker in size with a lot more volume. By focusing on your ileocecal and hiatal area you will feel a lot better very soon. Top

#31527 - 02/10/08 05:22 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease treva Senior Member Registered: 02/11/07 Posts: 88 Loc: Ohio James, thank's for the link!! I've been on a diet high in good fats, coconut oil, butter, brown rice, chicken, steamed veggies. I read where fats irritated you, was it good fats too? I have at least one good bm a day. I used to have 2-3 a day. Also I've had sinus drainage every morning, my throat has been irritated from it. Is this caused by the hiatal hernia or ileocecal valve? I'm currently taking supplements like the rest of the people on here. I've been detoxing for the last two years due to high mercury. I still currently have 2 fillings left, one which is leaking. I read where you said supplements irritate the valve!! Is it all or just some that do? Thank's _________________________ Treva Top

#31528 - 02/11/08 10:32 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease SoSick Premier Veteran Registered: 04/07/07 Posts: 2158 Loc: Lost on a mountain USA Quote: SoSick, I will try the colon cleanse!! I read your's and sunshines posts, they are very interesting to me. I have some of the smooth move tea that you spoke of. I think I might try it today, have you tried it before? I talked with my friend at the health food store about a liver cleanse, she recommended phos and apple cider. Did any of this affect you while you were working? I guess I need to bite the bullet and just do it. What did the other people say about their lip problems? I looked on the internet to see if anything matched my lip problem do to a parasite cleanse and never found anything on it. It drives me crazy!!! I noticed around that time of the month that my lips get worse. My friend at the health food store seem's to think that it's a digestive issue!! I know that a colon cleanse would do me good, I detox with NCD everyday!! Thank's SoSick for the info, I love this forum!!! I felt rather clogged after my first parasite cleanse too... I think that's normal for many people, which is why the liver flush is recommended directly after a parasite cleanse. You want to do the hulda clark liver flush, info is here: http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp Apple cider is a favorite of mine too, good to drink prior to the liver flush. Use a couple teaspoons of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water a couple times a day for a few days to do a quick kidney rinse just before the liver flush. the Hulda clark liver flush is amazing, you will be very glad you did it. You should see a good number of the dead parasites that have been clogging you up come out during that. I have had great success doing the plain flush with olive oil, grapefruit juice and epsom salts. I usually add some Black Walnut tincture to the oilive oil mixture to kill any leftover parasites in the liver... if you don't have any eating a good amount of fresh raw pineapple in the morning the day of your flush should accomplish the same thing. If herbals are bothering you just use the high enema routine on this page to unblock from the other end: http://tuberose.com/Colon_Health.html I add a light solution of Bentonite clay to that for amazing results, and rinse with clear water after. You may need to do the high enema for a week or two, 2 or 3 times a week to really start seeing major results (strange bits of matter that have been clogging you up) but even the first couple should give you major relief. Boil your water first for 5-20 minutes and let it cool. I filter my water too (before boiling). I still have a few amalgams and have been very successful with all this cleansing. If you hvae a leaky one you should get it removed. I had a leaky one, had it extracted, was a rear molar. Pretty much all I recall reading about paraiste cleansing and lip problems is the same as you are mentioning... lips get strange when doing parasite cleanses. You might try putting some providone iodine on it, that kills parasites too. You can add some idodine in place of the Black Walnut tincture during the liver flush too btw, just use half a teaspoon or so. Top

#31529 - 02/11/08 07:03 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Quote: James, thank's for the link!! I've been on a diet high in good fats, coconut oil, butter, brown rice, chicken, steamed veggies. I read where fats irritated you, was it good fats too? I have at least one good bm a day. I used to have 2-3 a day. Also I've had sinus drainage every morning, my throat has been irritated from it. Is this caused by the hiatal hernia or ileocecal valve? I'm currently taking supplements like the rest of the people on here. I've been detoxing for the last two years due to high mercury. I still currently have 2 fillings left, one which is leaking. I read where you said supplements irritate the valve!! Is it all or just some that do? Thank's Hi treva, Coconut oil and butter are bad foods for hiatal hernia. All greasy, fatty foods pretty much are. That would include beef unless it is very lean. Chicken and turkey are of course safe but don't eat the skin or the dark meat. Stay with skinless chicken breasts at first. After far as the drainage that is the butter and coconut oil backing up on you. When your stomach moves out of its proper place up toward your food pipe it causes an acid substance to back up into the throat. Good to take care of that, it can cause damage to the trachia and esophagus and llong term cancer. Not to mention it being very annoying. Everyone of course is different as to what may be possible irritants to their intestinal system. If you are taking a bunch of supplements and don't know what may be irritating you best to stop all of them and start building back. IMO supplements are a waste of money for most people because their intestinal system is messed up so their body isn't even using the nutrition in the supplements. According to a chiropract I go to 60% of the people he treats have hiatal hernia and ileocecal valve malfunction. That jives with a lot of the information I've read. Start your first day with a steamed vegetable for breakfast. For lunch baked, boiled or steamed chicken with a steamed vegetable. Same thing for dinner. Second day steamed vegetable with baked, boiled or steamed turkey breast for lunch or dinner. What that will do is desensitize your system and you will start noticing what is bothering you as you add foods. Third day try the steamed veggies for breakfast with the brown rice. Personally rice bothers me but I think it is from developing a sensitivity to it over the years of eating too much while trying to get rid of candida. LOL So have the rice with the steamed vegetable for breakfast and see how you feel. Lunch have your chicken and steamed veggie for lunch, same for dinner. Fourth day add another food. If you find a bad food then cross it off your list. If you have the money to spend on allergy testing this will save you a lot of time figuring out what you are allergic to because allergic reactions to foods feeds candida. (Did anyone happen to mention that to you?) Also, you will find other things you have reactions to. May be your water, may be the cleaning solution in your water, may be the soap you are using to wash your clothes, maybe perfume or cologne, could be anything. Everything you can eliminate from your life that causes an allergic reaction will greatly aid in rebuilding your immune system. Best to not store food in the refrigerator as it becomes moldy. If possible cook what you can eat that day and eat it all and don't store. If you try this program and stick to it I guarantee you will start feeling very good in a day or 2 and you will be laying a foundation for the healthy food you will be eating for years to come. Hope some of these tips help you. Top

#31530 - 02/12/08 10:21 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease treva Senior Member Registered: 02/11/07 Posts: 88 Loc: Ohio James, Thank's so much for the info!! I've already found that different foods bother me. I was thinking that I had food allergies but I guess I was in a state of denial. My husband bought some detergent that's scented and I kept telling him that It was bothering me. I've always bought detergent free and clear of perfumes. Since we've quit using it, I've noticed a difference with my sinuses. I will definently try the diet that you suggested, anything to help the way I feel. I already notice a difference since massaging. I haven't had the feeling of food being stuck in my throat. That really got on my nerves not mention that it scared me!! My doctor had mentioned for me to get a allergy test, when I went in about my lips and throat. I thought back to when it all started and I was doing the parasite cleanse and he had bought that detergent. Anyway's I think the detergent is what was causing all the drainage!! I bought those oil plug ins once and those affected my sinuses. So I know not to use any extra fragrances in the house. I also use all organic cleaners or water and vinegar. I'm a excema sufferer!! I have it under control as long as I don't use anything with fragrance. I'm wanting to have my last two fillings removed in April, will this have an effect on the ileocecal valve? One of them is leaking, I need to get it out. Thank's again for giving me all the info, it really helps _________________________ Treva Top

#31531 - 02/12/08 11:59 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease treva Senior Member Registered: 02/11/07 Posts: 88 Loc: Ohio James, I also ordered king bio product for the ileocecal valve, it's a spray. You spray the area where the ileocecal valve is, have you heard anything about this product? _________________________ Treva Top

#31532 - 02/12/08 04:39 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Quote: James, I also ordered king bio product for the ileocecal valve, it's a spray. You spray the area where the ileocecal valve is, have you heard anything about this product? Yes, I bought it but am too sensitive to us the product at this point. It is sitting over here on the shelf winking at me. LOL Let me know how it works for you. Top

#31533 - 02/12/08 04:45 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Quote: James, Thank's so much for the info!! I've already found that different foods bother me. I was thinking that I had food allergies but I guess I was in a state of denial. My husband bought some detergent that's scented and I kept telling him that It was bothering me. I've always bought detergent free and clear of perfumes. Since we've quit using it, I've noticed a difference with my sinuses. I will definently try the diet that you suggested, anything to help the way I feel. I already notice a difference since massaging. I haven't had the feeling of food being stuck in my throat. That really got on my nerves not mention that it scared me!! My doctor had mentioned for me to get a allergy test, when I went in about my lips and throat. I thought back to when it all started and I was doing the parasite cleanse and he had bought that detergent. Anyway's I think the detergent is what was causing all the drainage!! I bought those oil plug ins once and those affected my sinuses. So I know not to use any extra fragrances in the house. I also use all organic cleaners or water and vinegar. I'm a excema sufferer!! I have it under control as long as I don't use anything with fragrance. I'm wanting to have my last two fillings removed in April, will this have an effect on the ileocecal valve? One of them is leaking, I need to get it out. Thank's again for giving me all the info, it really helps treva, I would think having that leaky amalgam removed would help greatly. Also, candida is sensitive to moldy foods. (Nuts, vinegar, moldy tea bags, root vegetables to name a few). When you take vinegar out of your diet it eliminates a lot of foods. Relishes, pickles, any kind of salad dressing, ketchup, mustard, etc. The list of foods we can eat gets shorter. Olive oil is usually good for most people for candida, hiatal hernia and ICV. Also, don't forget cosmetics. Most store bought lipsticks have wheat unless you buy them from a health store. Make sure you every cosmetic you use and also include your shampoo and conditioner. Most of them have some sort of wheat. Then glance at your toothpaste and see what is in there. I know this is all becoming a pain in the butt but as you start feeling a lot better and sleeping better and regaining your energy it will all be worth the effort!! The best investment you could make is the book by Dr. Gary Richer called "Gut Feeling". It goes more in depth regarding massage and also has a great technique you can do using a tennis ball on your ICV that really helps a lot. Unfortunately for me my back can't handle it. You basically lay on a tennis ball for 10 minutes on the floor after massaging pressure points on your body. It really works! Glad some of this is being helpful for you ! Top

#31534 - 02/14/08 08:52 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease treva Senior Member Registered: 02/11/07 Posts: 88 Loc: Ohio James, I'm feeling much better, no more food caught in the throat!! I'm also digesting better. It amazes me what a little massaging can do. I've been reading on a yahoo candida site and they say the only way to heal is with good fats, protein and only limited veggies. The diet is real strict!! The person who is running the site says that you shouldn't have your silver fillings removed. She says that you can heal your body with them in. She says that she did but she also lost all but four teeth. lol The people on the site focus on the diet to detox their bodies and nothing else. Bee, the person who runs the site has already gotten upset with me because I focus on mercury being the culprit. It's confusing to me because I've done nothing but research on mercury and I feel alot better now that I've focused on getting out of my body!! How are you feeling since your removal? I'm really happy for you!! Thank's again for taking time to post this about the ileocecal valve, you helped me out a bunch _________________________ Treva Top

#31535 - 02/15/08 12:14 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease Bex Premier Veteran Registered: 06/13/06 Posts: 4266 Loc: NZ Treva, I was booted off Bee's group many months ago. But I rejoined under another name I saw your comments recently too about the valve problem lol. I'm glad it's working for you! I'm confused where to massage mine to be honest. 2 inches in from the hip, but then I still get addled. I sound moronic, but I probably need a diagramme so I know EXACTLY which spot to massage. I agree with her diet for the most part, but I think when people have much more going on like mercury and root canals and cavitations and other sources of ongoing toxicity, I don't know if it's quite so simple as just being on the diet. Though I admit it most definitely helps the process, I think for some they need more than that. But for sure, you cannot really discuss that on her group. You find out pretty soon that it's not tolerated! lol. Top

#31536 - 02/15/08 10:19 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease treva Senior Member Registered: 02/11/07 Posts: 88 Loc: Ohio Bex, I agree with her diet and I think she's helping some people!! I also think that there's people that will require more than a diet to detox mercury. I know that there is no way that I could of went on with all those leaking fillings. I had 6 removed and it made a huge difference for me. That group is almost erie to me, they remind me of groupies!! lol Bee acually has a good description on how you can locate your valve. So why did she boot you off? _________________________ Treva Top

#31537 - 02/15/08 02:59 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease Bex Premier Veteran Registered: 06/13/06 Posts: 4266 Loc: NZ HI Treva, yeah I think she is helping people also. I do most of her diet, but not all. I still include a bit of yoghurt and raw nuts, but not overboard. I find it too restrictive in a way. No way should anybody live with leaky fillings and be expected to be healthy, even with a great diet. You might "aid" yourself more, but this is a bad senario. Glad you got them out and feel better! wise move. I think expecting this diet to do the miraculous is taking things too far, but that's the impression I get on that group at times. If there is an ongoing source of potent toxicity, be it from leaky amalgams (or just amalgams), infection of some kind etc, the body will be under consistant strain and this is not normal for the system to have to tolerate. Diet only takes you so far, but the underlying problem remains and continues to poison the system. In cases like that, diet is not a cure. You cannot cure yourself if you have a dripping tap of poison that doesn't cease. I didn't know Bee had a good description of where to locate the valve....Do you know where she has this? I'd be interested. She booted me from her group due to an incident regarding another member who had expressed concerns about the diet and certain symptoms she was getting which alarmed her. She had some kind of attack (which I now believe was indigestion, but can actually feel like heart attack symptoms)She simply made some comments about this because she was in a real upset state and because she had questioned the diet and the fats? she was pretty much beseiged by an onslaught of groupie attack. These few people belittled her and behaved like life and diet gurus and pretty much tore strips of her. I was absolutely stunned. So I started hitting back, me and a few others stuck up for this poor lady. Well that was mistake number one. But the clincher was when this incident had been brought up on the other candida group (that Bee sometimes reads or at least a few of her groupies did). I made a few comments about it, Bee read our comments and emailed me and told me I was booted from her group. Fair enough I guess, her group. But I value her information and her hard work regardless and rejoined under another name. I don't post much, I mainly read. Many people have been booted in the past, but rejoined under other names. The group is run very tightly and any apparent dissenting comments or comments that put the diet in question or challenge anything are put under the spotlight very quickly and there is a zero tolerance policy for it, so one that does this does not last too long if they continue. Top

#31538 - 02/15/08 03:52 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease treva Senior Member Registered: 02/11/07 Posts: 88 Loc: Ohio Bex, I've talked about this forum on her site, I figured people would go to it. I want people to see both sides to what could possibly be making them sick. Bee has looked at this site because I made a comment about "biting the bullet" to do a cleanse on this forum. Bee told me that she didn't think that I was right for her group, then stated people here are willing to "bite the bullet" and do my diet!! I think she get's to me because she try's to play God!!!!!! I hope she reads this I'm like you, she has good info but I think she needs to realize everybody detoxes differently, she made a comment to me that all human bodies are the same. yes they are but we all dont react to things the same!! They told a women in the group that she shouldn't focus on her aches and pains soo much. RUDE!!! Bee sent me the link on one of the posts on the ileocecal valve. Sorry I don't know which one!! She said place your left thumb on your belly button, put your right hand on your hip and use your left thumb to alighn where the valve is. She said that it will be tender, mine was. my friend from the health food store showed me pressure points on your upper arms. You press down and you will find them because there tender. She press on those and do deep breathing with it. I jump on my trampoline and press on the pressure points, It's all helping !! keep in touch _________________________ Treva Top

#31539 - 02/15/08 05:00 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Bex, you mention that you eat nuts. Nuts are one of the hardest foods to digest and extremely hard on the digestive system. In fact youi've got the market cornered on foods that are hard on the digestive tract: onions, Garlic and nuts. 1A, 1B, 1C. I gave 'em all up and feel much better for it. After pounding your intestinal system mercilessly with high impact drugs to remove mercury and megadoses of vitamins and supplements you are now ingesting high irritation foods and who knows what else all these years. A digestive system receiving this type of treatment over a period of years can create every single symptom you have mentioned without any need for gangrene, root canals, oral infections or anything else. If you were to eat nothing but boiled or baked chicken and turkey and steamed vegetables with no spices or anything on them for a week with nothing else (including coffee, cigarettes, alcohol, vitamins, supplements or anything else) you would feel better than you have in years. Your digestive system would think it died and went to heaven and start working again without being in a constant agitative state, belching toxics and poisons into your blood stream and organs and give you back your vitality and strength. If you want to feel like you are 18 again eat nothing but steam veggies for a week. When I gave up Garlic, nuts and onions I felt 20 years younger. We all think there's a magic pill or supplement or surgery out there that is going to make us well but in the end it all comes down to the quality and compatibility of the food we put into our stomachs and how we treat our intestinal systems. We try to fool ourselves thinking that we can do all sorts of things to overcome what we eat, drink and smoke but in the end it is what it is. Thats reality. It took me a lot of years to realize that I had to give up a lot of the things that I enjoyed eating and drinking to get my health back. I fought fiercely to not give up a lot of the foods and drink that I enjoyed. But in the end I finally realized that I had to give them up to regain my health. No pill, surgery, vitamin, suplement or anything would change that fact. I'm a lot older than I used to be and my body and particularly my intestinal system can't handle the abuse anymore. Few people realize that. I'm glad I finally did. Top

#31540 - 02/15/08 05:38 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease Bex Premier Veteran Registered: 06/13/06 Posts: 4266 Loc: NZ Yeah I eat almonds....the problem I have with all this James is the body is designed to have roughage and things to act as a broom as well as easy foods. I already have no grains, so if I'm eating soft foods continually, steamed etc, where on earth am I going to get the stuff that makes my bowels etc work? I understand temporary maybe, but long term? Thing is, I was not eating these foods a long while back.....yet had the same issues. These problems began after the dental work in 2004. I haven't actually pounded my system with drugs believe it or not. So I have to correct you on that one. I was actually one of those people that tried to avoid any medicating. My chelating days started with natural methods, but were too painful for me. I only started to use DMSA last and this too was not too long term. I was doing very well, gaining a lot of health at the end and I stopped using any chelation at all. Alongside that? Barely any supplements and sometimes none at all. I used Vitamin C and selenium and E sometimes. ... so if anything I used less than most people. Often I coudl not tolerate them anyway.... I did well until the viral infection and then extraction work on my teeth. That's when it all fell apart. Again it had nothing to do with DMSA, I wasn't even using it at that time. I've never really done anything hard core for long term. The only thing I have done passionately is the diet. I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke. My supplements now are minimal.....so I'm really not doing too badly. Again, I was not eating nuts, onions etc when I was already this way years ago...so eating or not eating them never made the difference. I can give these extras up however if you feel it would make the difference. Can I have stir fried vegetables? Do they all have to be steamed? I gather one cannot have anything raw? I would like to know how long that has to last? I don't like the idea of giving up fats again, this at least allowed some healing and helped me gain much needed weight and helped my skin. Quote: We all think there's a magic pill or supplement or surgery out there that is going to make us well but in the end it all comes down to the quality and compatibility of the food we put into our stomachs. We try to fool ourselves thinking that we can do all sorts of things to overcome what we eat, drink and smoke but in the end it is what it is. Thats reality. I haven't actually ever thought this. I have put healthy foods into myself for years now. I used to get excellent results from it too. LIke I said, one cannot live with chronic gangrene in their system regardless of how well they eat. I did better with amalgams than I have with what I now deal with. I never thought that any pill or surgery is the magic cure. But I believe if it removes a non stop tap of poison, it may allow the body to then gain benefits from the continued efforts the person makes with their diet and lifestyle. I think you would be taken aback if you knew exactly how well I've treated my body for years on end now. ONe would need to experience the devastation of what happened to understand how the efforts that once produced wonderful results come to an almost standstill. I felt like 18 too when I stuck to a good diet and even though I still had amalgams. You don't feel like 18 with chronic viral infection and ongoing possible gangrene. Doesnt quite work that way. Wish it did. This subject was brought up on a candida forum recently and was spoken about by the owner. She mentions how important the fats are for healing digestion, but also mentions that one can massage those areas you mention to help in the meantime.... Top

#31541 - 02/15/08 06:04 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Bex, the trigger may have been at the time the wisdom teeth were removed but it may not have been the actual surgery or any infection left behind. It could have been the antibiotic post-surgery that triggered your condition. Some of those antibiotic strains are deadly. Or it could have been other medications or pain pills or the anesthetic administered at the time. Or the release of that nasty bacteria in the root canals themselves could've triggered a major intestinal irritation/syndrome. I would definitely suggest giving up the onions, Garlic and nuts. Nuts are also VERY moldy and major irritants to the intestinal system. Garlic and onion are the 2 worst. candida and other diets of that nature always encourage people to eat a lot of onion and Garlic as great anti-inflammatories but in reality they are major irritants to the lining of the intestinal system. Nuts are horrible, too. Oh, I forgot popcorn. The kernels from popcorn I've been told are like little switchblades. If you like olive oil I think stir fried vegetables should work very well for you, make sure you cook them real good, tho. No seasoning or herbs, tho. Just vegetables and olive oil. (If not cooked on telfon ... ) Okay, I've been a big advocate now for eliminating all metal including that used in our cookware. Metal of course is non-soluble. How can that be good for our systems and it leaches from the pans and silverware into our bodies. A steamed/cooked vegetable diet should not be long term but if you stay on all cooked food for a week or 2with either boiled or baked chicken or turkey you will find out quickly if it is an inflamed gastrointestinal system that is really the root cause of your problem. Like I said before, when I gave up onions and Garlic it was like an epiphany for me. Everyone says they are so healthy and great for killing candida!!! Right? When I gave them up I felt so much better it was unbelievable ! I couldn't believe how much better I felt when I gave up onions and Garlic. It was almost stunning. Massage the ileocecal area 3 times a day in a circle motion about 100 revolutions. That way even if you don't know where it is you will be covering the area. Altho you should find it after a while 'cause it feels like a small pillow deep within. Personally I don't go that deep but use moderate pressure. Then put the cold towel on the area before you go to bed for 15-20 minutes. When your stomach/intestinal system desensitizes and relaxes you will feel a profound sense of relaxation and well-being. That is what happened to me. Top

#31542 - 02/15/08 06:22 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease Bex Premier Veteran Registered: 06/13/06 Posts: 4266 Loc: NZ Hi James, well I think alot of things go way way back. Starting with mercury poisoning. I don't believe I ever came out of that perfect. I always had to stick to a good diet to get by, but I felt pretty darned good there in the end after years of struggle from detox. HOwever, that does not mean I was out of the woods. mercury does most definitely put you in a more vulnerable position, so that may have allowed the virus to get a hold of me, when maybe under other circumstances it would not have. That damaged me a great deal and never left me. Reminds me of an aids type condition because it just stays there. Though I don't die of it, so I can't say for me it's lethal. But it changed my life dramatically. Because of the immune system being damaged by virus, then came the wisdom teeth extraction. The righthand one did not appear to affect me at all. It was removed, I bled alot, but there was no change in my condition. However, when the left one was done much later on, that's when things went from bad to dire. I was tested by EAV (voll testing) by a doctor in my country who is one of the best and he said there is wet gangrene in the jaw. This stuff doesn't just "come out". This stuff is pretty lethal in what it can do to the entire body. Imagine ongoing rot? Potent bacteria compared to mustard gas. mercury was better for me than this stuff (if in fact this guy is right). So, though diet has been a help to me, it' stopped producing its once wonderful results. It only barely gets me by because of what is going on the rest of the time. yest these things normally have to be surgically cleaned out in order for healing and bone growth to take place. Otherwise....mostly the person is stuck. Yeah, I'll take your advice and give up the obvious onions and nuts. I don't eat Garlic But I can tell you that I was not always eating them, and I was still very ill. So I'm unsure if this will help, but it's worth a try. I'm not taking supplements, took your advice and I'm leaving them out. Yeah I did the cold ice towel pack thing last night. lol FREEZING, but I let it stay there for about 10 minutes. Will do it again tonight for longer. Massaged a bit today too, but I need to do more obviously. I have olive oil, so that's good. I have stainless steel, so I don't know how much that stuff leaches out....I've had the same pot for years and it's still as good as new. No deterioration. Teflon however...that's another story. I leave them out. I know aluminium does leach off the pans into food, so I steer clear of those. Wow, yeah Garlic and onions are supposed to be the great foods for candida....but to be honest, I never tolerated Garlic at all. Onions i LOVE. I'm addicted to them and have loads everyday So hmmmm, I guess that'll be a shock to my system to not have them. I love tomatoes too, but mainly have them stir fried so they're nice and soft. NO raw foods? No salads? Okie dokie. We shall see where this gets me in a week or more. Mind you, sometimes it takes a while to get everything right. It's transitional for me, so I probably won't have it ideal. But I'm getting there. I think right now the worst are the nuts and onions. I also eat butter during the day, so might stop that too. I like to have some though because that stuff has helped me I believe. It's naturally occuring vitamin A and D and other nutrients are very healing. I'll just make sure I stir fry things to make them softer rather than too crisp, if that'll help my digestion. And/or steamed too. I drink herbal tea, so I don't really have caffeine.... Good to hear yu're doing well on this and feel 18 again I wish I WAS 18 again Top

#31543 - 02/15/08 08:26 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease treva Senior Member Registered: 02/11/07 Posts: 88 Loc: Ohio Bex, I noticed that you said you drink herbal tea, I'm a tea lover also. I was drinking 4-5 cups a day, little did I know that I was irritating my digestive system with the tea. I upped My NCD drops agian, this is supposed to help. I was taking 10 drops a day and didn't have any of these problems. It helps build your immune system, detoxes, Ph balances your body. I'm going to talk to my friend at the health food store and see if she could recommend anything for you. There has to be something to get rid of that virus. Have you read on mycrohydrin? It rids your body of spider poison, my dad was bit by a brown recluse. For three summers straight he had huge welts pop up on his arms. He went to his doctor, they gave him antibiotics about 3 or 4 times. Then they gave him a creme to put on the welts. It was him sweating that brought them out. I gave him some mycrohydrin, he put it in his water and applied it to the welts. He's doing much better now. I'm wondering if this wouldn't help for your virus and gangrene. It also puts good fluid around your cells in your body!! _________________________ Treva Top

#31544 - 02/15/08 09:13 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease Bex Premier Veteran Registered: 06/13/06 Posts: 4266 Loc: NZ Hi Treva, Well, it's becoming increasingly difficult when I find out more and more problems with foods and drinks. I'm really not sure which way to go....I was told herbal teas are very soothing and most do not contain caffeine. That was at least something I could do. So I am getting somewhat confused by it all. I drink them because I really don't have anything else I can have. I have them weak though. I only drip the tea bag in enough to get a bit of flavour, so I hope that's not too bad. Thanks for your help, but I've been recommended a number of things now that I have yet to try and it does get overwhelming. I remember using microhydrin many years ago when I had mercury and I think it was good stuff. REally good actually. I used that, plus Vitamin C powder (mixed with microhydrin) and took Vitamin E and selenium. all worked so well together. BUT It is also very very expensive. I cannot afford most of the things I would like to take, plus so many suggestions, I really think I'd go insane trying to do it all. And the fact of the matter is, my problems now are not the same. I also do not respond as I once used to. Total lack of healing almost. Like being at a standstill. Cavitations/virus can do that to ya. Like recently I thought of trying cat's claw or colloidal silver, becuase of infections, but I just cannot do all these things at once right now. I'm just totally overwhelmed. I'm about to do a bowel cleanse too soon (with parasite cleansing), so have to see how that goes. I also believe that no matter what efforts I make, as the years roll by it just is not solving the problem. Usually I come across one thing after another that claims to be THE answer, but so often it just proves another therapy that failed to solve the problem. Diet was the only one really that had ANYthing to it that did help somewhat or gave some relief. The rest was temporary and costly. I think if I was less unwell and more energetic, I'd be so much more positive and motivated. It's a vicious cycle. So many of us have much more going on than just mercury, which is so often why we find ourselves going in circles I think. mercury is awful just by itself, horrible stuff. BUT, you detox it, and over time you begin to improve after the roller coaster rides. The stuff can be removed allowing healing to take place. You don't get that with everything else. If the body has too much going on at once, there are big problems as I have sadly discovered. The immune system can take a lot of beating, but if it's multiple? Things go seriously wrong. It's like trying to juggle so many things at onetime. anyway, thank you for your kind concern and comments. I guess right now for me it's taking one thing at a time as I can handle it. Top

#31545 - 02/15/08 09:33 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease Bex Premier Veteran Registered: 06/13/06 Posts: 4266 Loc: NZ HI Treva, just responding to your post above. Well, Bee does not like discussing anything outside of her own homework and belief system. So I and a few others on there who were talking about mercury poisoning and Cutler's protocol were soon shut up pretty quickly and warned. I knew not to take it any further at that point. That's her perogative and she believes in it, and it seems to help a lot of people. But again, she aint God, so I choose to get my information from other sources, not just her. That's MY perogative You know full well what your body responds to. Admittedly though one has to give things a good chance. Usually things are not cured in a few days. It can take weeks/months. Bee is highly disciplined and her information is wonderful. Such dedication and hard work. So I think the best idea is to be on a few different forums (as you and I are) and gain as much information as we can and make a decision as to what we wish to try. She runs the forum like a tight ship and that's good in its own way....but it has its drawbacks too. I like to get the best of both worlds and I find this forum is so open and people feel free to discuss just about anything, either mercury itself, or related health issues or even other oral toxicity problems etc. It's a good feeling here, a comradeship without the feeling of a cult. Thanks for the extra helpful tips on the valve! and glad to hear it's helping you! I know Bee said that these things are actually temporary measures and what is required is proper foods and fats to heal the body and digestive system. What do you think about that? Top

#31546 - 02/16/08 06:36 AM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Bex, you hit the nail on the head with trying too many things. Thats why I think it is good to go back to basics and start rebuilding one's diet with 1 food at a time to see what works and what does not. That way you can eliminate the offending foods 'cause you are building from a solid base. Tea is not a good idea, the bags and tea itself are very moldy. Tea of course is a diuretic which takes moisture out of the body. Of course you don't want to put any caffeine in the body at all. After rebuilding your diet and strengthening the intestinal system if you want a cup of non-caffeinated tea I don't think it would be a major problem. Very hot or very cold foods irritate the intesintal system. Room temperature foods are best, warm or chilled are fine. Personally all I drink is purified, room temperature water as I've gotten used to it and come to enjoy its simplicity. Top

#31547 - 02/16/08 07:07 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease sunflower Master Veteran Registered: 09/20/07 Posts: 493 James, when you mentioned onions & Garlic were very harsh on digestive tract , were you referring to them raw,cooked,both? Thanks Top

#31548 - 02/16/08 08:12 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease Bex Premier Veteran Registered: 06/13/06 Posts: 4266 Loc: NZ Hi James, yeah keeping things as simple as possible and gentle as possible too and we'll see what happens. So far, I've eliminated the nuts, onions, coleslaw and raw vegetables and herbal teas and supplements. Today I had heated up cooked chicken with stir fried soft tomatoe and cucumber done in olive oil and a boiled egg, plus steamed broccoli and carrot. Everything was done to the point where it was soft, rather than crisp. I have stopped adding black pepper to my foods as well and only use some redmonds real salt. It may not be perfect, but it's pretty good I think. I had a bit of lemon added to warm water. Plus a bit of acidophilus organic yoghurt. Ive done some of the massaging as well and hope I'm hitting the right spot. I'm not noticing anything so far and not feeling any real sensations in that area when I push and massage around there. Top

#31549 - 02/18/08 02:19 PM Re: Crucial Relief for Candida, Detox Symptoms and other Disease James44 Graduate Member Registered: 02/03/08 Posts: 124 Quote: James, when you mentioned onions & Garlic were very harsh on digestive tract , were you referring to them raw,cooked,both? Thanks sunflower, both raw AND cooked onions and Garlic are irritants to the intestinal system. What I found in my experience was that the foods that were supposed to be great for fighting candida (onions, Garlic, anti-fungals, etc) were actually irritating my intestinal tract and making my candida WORSE. Even worse than sugars and yeast which are supposed to be the realy culprits. I think it depends on how systemic and deep rooted the candida is in one's system. The longer that a person has had candida the more sensitize the system is and the more resistant it is to the antifungal/antibacterial foods and supplement products. But onions and Garlic and very powerful foods either way.