Wednesday, 1 March 2017
Rosemary Conley is right in her approach
many fools jumped onto the exercise video and diet band waggon
They have got i wrong - I was Goodtotalk - Ms Society website is dangerous
07 Jun 2012 at 7:50 pm #1
Could they have got it wrong?
Hey,
Wasnt sure which forum to post this on so decided this one.
Im just wondering whos had blood test for vit b12 thats comes back showing a deficiancy? and how common is it to have vit12 def and ms.
I was diagnosed with RRMS last year, supported by MRI and LP results, but would having a vit12 def have an effect on that? Hope thats making sense, I know what Im trying to say haha.
Ive managed to convince myself over the past week (im awaiting results for blood test) that I havent got ms after all!
Wasnt sure which forum to post this on so decided this one.
Im just wondering whos had blood test for vit b12 thats comes back showing a deficiancy? and how common is it to have vit12 def and ms.
I was diagnosed with RRMS last year, supported by MRI and LP results, but would having a vit12 def have an effect on that? Hope thats making sense, I know what Im trying to say haha.
Ive managed to convince myself over the past week (im awaiting results for blood test) that I havent got ms after all!
Monday, 27 February 2017
Yeast is the obesity problem - tell the polititions re rediculous sugar tax
the experts know nothing
Friday, 24 February 2017
Wednesday, 15 February 2017
Chicken or egg
Candida and alcoholism frequently occur together and perpetuate one another. It is unclear in some cases, which came first, the chicken or the egg; however, were you find one, you often find the other. This is due to the fact that yeast overgrowth can result in cravings for alcohol and the consumption of alcohol encourages the proliferation of yeast.
If this issue is not addressed, it leaves the individual in recovery at very high risk of relapse. This is true not only of alcohol addiction, but addiction of any kind. According to Joan Mathews-Larson, from the Health Recovery Center in Minnesota, they have found that about 55 percent of alcohol addicted women and 35 percent of alcohol addicted men have Candida yeast overgrowth.
For those who are not familiar with this issue, Candida yeast is an organism that resides in your gastrointestinal tract. It is supposed to be there in limited numbers as it performs many important functions. However, sometimes something goes awry, which allows the yeast organism to proliferate in very large numbers and take over all the healthy bacteria in your gut. This is when problems occur.
The toxins that the yeast emits can have a significant impact on brain function and any other organ and system in the body, which results in a wide array of psychological and physiological symptoms that can drive the individual in recovery back to the bottle or their substance of choice.
Some of the most common symptoms to be experienced include cravings for alcohol, sugar or carbs, followed by anxiety and depression, but it is often the root of mood swings, aggressive behavior, explosive anger and violence, hyperactivity, attention deficit, impaired memory, learning and cognitive functions, OCD, arthritis, headaches, migraines, loss of energy, sore throat, flatulence, IBS, eczema, recurring cough, MS, bloating, and much more. It can even be a factor in more serious conditions like Crohn’s disease, autism, prostatitis, MS, schizophrenia, paranoia and rheumatoid arthritis.
Candida overgrowth can play a significant role in hypoglycemia, as it will consume your glucose, and hypoglycemia can be a primary trigger for alcohol cravings and relapse.
Overgrowth of Candida develops for two primary reasons - diet and antibiotics.
Sugar, and any food that is broken down into sugar, is the primary source of food for yeast. So a diet that is high in sugar and carbohydrates will encourage yeast to proliferate. Furthermore, this type of diet is lacking in important nutrients that are needed to keep the immune system strong, and a weak immune system will also allow yeast to grow out of control.
It's important to be aware that alcohol is the most refined sugar you can consume. It does not even have to be digested; it is absorbed directly through the gut wall. So, when you drink alcohol, it is like your giving Candida yeast an IV of its food source. Thus, why Candida often results from alcoholism.
Antibiotics not only eradicate the bad bacteria that makes you sick, but they also eliminate all the good bacteria in your gut that helps keep you healthy. However, antibiotics do not kill Candida, so this permits it to proliferate and take over the gastrointestinal tract. Even if you aren't taking any antibiotics, they are present in traditional store bought meat and dairy products. So if you aren't eating organic and antibiotic-free, then you are consuming antibiotics unknowingly.
Other common contributors to Candida yeast overgrowth include birth control pills, medication for ulcers, antacids, steroids, insufficient hydrochloric acid levels, deficiency in nutrients, acidosis, heavy metal toxicity, consuming chlorinated water, toxins in the environment, inadequate digestive enzyme levels, and drugs that suppress the immune system.
Candida releases over 70 different toxins into your body, but the two we are most concerned about in relationship to alcoholism and addiction are ethanol and acetaldehyde.
First let's talk about ethanol. Ethanol is alcohol. Candida yeast survives by fermenting sugars to generate energy it needs to live. So, if you have Candida overgrowth and you eat sugar, or any type of carbohydrates, then Candida converts it into alcohol. Therefore, even though you have not drank any alcohol, alcohol is in your body. This often results in strong cravings for alcoholic beverages or sugar that can seriously sabotage your recovery program.
Candida creates alcohol as it processes the sugar in your body. If you ’re eating a diet high in sugar and refined carbohydrates, which most people are, you are giving the Candida an endless source of food that it continuously breaks down and produces more alcohol in the process. The alcohol works as a catalyst to provide a quick fix. Candida is craving the alcohol because it wants the sugar. Thus, this is often another one of the main reasons why all alcoholics are addicted to sugar in recovery.
A phenomenon called auto-brewery syndrome can occur, where the alcohol levels in the body are so high from Candida that the individual can actually feel and appear intoxicated. Alcohol can be detected in the bloodstream and the individual may even fail a breathalyzer test, even though they have not touched an alcoholic beverage. Naturally, if the recovering alcoholic has alcohol in their body from some other source, this can lead to cravings for a drink.
Next let's look at another one of the by-products of Candida called acetaldehyde. Acetaldehyde is a neurotoxin related to formaldehyde. As with any of the toxins that Candida creates, acetaldehyde can enter the bloodstream and travel to other parts of the body. One of the areas where it collects most frequently is the brain, where it can cause damage to brain function and structure and causes deficiencies in vitamin B1, niacin, acetyl coenzyme A, and pyridoxal-5-phosphate (P5P), and it destroys essential enzymes. All nutrients that are very important for brain chemistry and overcoming an addiction.
Acetaldehyde also has the bizarre ability to combine with two primary neurotransmitters in the brain, serotonin and dopamine and form tetrahydro-isoquinolines, which are substances that are very similar to opiates and thus simulate a similar kind of opiate high. In the case of the opiate addicted, this could lead to cravings for opiates, and for the alcohol addicted could trigger cravings for a drink. Acetaldehyde is also found in traffic exhaust and cigarette smoke and can enter the body through these sources as well. Thus, another one of the reasons as to why alcoholics must stop smoking as well, if they want to overcome their cravings.
Candida toxins can also disrupt the thyroid, upset hormone balance, impair the liver, deplete serotonin and cause elevated levels of norepinephrine.
All this impact on brain function and neurotransmitters is crucial, because, as you have learned on the pages of this website, it is imbalanced neurotransmitters that is the root of addiction. In order to achieve craving-free and life-long sobriety, these neurotransmitters must be restored to balance, and that is not possible if one is dealing with chronic yeast overgrowth.
Candida sets one up for a vicious cycle of a vast amount of psychological and physical symptoms by disrupting neurotransmitters, hormones, organs and systems that, if not understood, have a high probability of leading to addictive substances for relief, or relapse, if one is in recovery.
You can learn more about the connection between Candida and alcoholism in my self-help program, or my Clean and Sober book.
Doctors that may have knowledge about Candida go by titles such as a Doctor of Environmental Medicine, a Doctor of Orthomolecular Medicine, a Naturopathic Doctor, an Integrative Medicine Doctor or Functional Medicine Doctor. However, do your homework and be armed with extensive knowledge on the topic yourself, because even those treating Candida are often limited in their knowledge base and most do not understand its connection to alcohol addiction.
References
Mathews Larson, Joan, Ph.D. Seven Weeks to Sobriety: The Proven Program to Fight Alcoholism through Nutrition. Revised ed. (Fawcett Columbine, 1992; Ballantine Books, 1997).
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Alison
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From what I can tell by internet sites (so I am certainly not an expert!) it can cause pernicious anaemia (or perhaps is the same thing... doesn't seem clear) which is an auto immune condition, same as MS ... so it seems more likely that having MS may have caused the problem with Vit B12 than other way round.
I have been tested for Vit B12 and am ok. I think what happens is that when we get MS symptoms we are tested for loads of other stuff (inc vit B12 and vit D) and therefore some people are at that point found deficient... but of course if we didn't have MS symptoms we would never have been tested so it wouldn't have been found. Must be millions of people who are deficient but never have reason to be tested. Does that make sense?
Sorry to dash your hopes of not having MS... I think with MRI and LP results, and obviously your symptoms, you will have to accept that it is MS.
Anyway, google it. There's loads of info online.
Take care,
Pat x
Yes they could have it wrong. There is a condition called Candida, I discovered I had it, over a year ago. when peolpe hear the word Candida the automatically think of vaginal thrush, but NO not this baby, it is considered to be the silent epidemic, as you wont know you have got it, I didnt. It causes a multitude of problems, vitamin deficiency is one of them, and many many others from allergies to joint pain, it can also be misdiagnosed as rheumatoid arthritus, its absolutely astounding, I have researched the subject extensively over the last 14months, it most certainly should be public knowledge, as can be brought on by stress, poor diet or antibiotic use, and thats why doctors deny it exists, and that is a massive mistake, it cannot be diagnosed by a blood test. It was discovered back in the 1980s and has gone unchecked since then, so in my opinion has been passed from mother to child, as it invades the blood, it is a fungus it is also called Candidiasis or Candida albicans. I believe mine was brought on by stress, wow did I suffer that big time and over many years, I was a worrier and the situation I found myself in contributed to the stress load (lack of money), it was a constant drip drip of stress and over many years
Candida needs to be public knowledge as can explain a lot.
Goodtotalk, you are technically right to say that Tiger's doctors could be wrong, in the same way that my doctors might have been wrong all these years and I do not actually have MS either, despite all the hard factual evidence to the contrary.
But I think it is a little ambitious on your part (to put it charitably) to suggest - as I think you do - that Tiger's problem is quite possibly caused by some vaguely-defined 'syndrome' that you happen to have a bee in your bonnet about. I think newly diagnosed people have enough to deal with without this kind of nonsense, quite frankly.
Alison
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Goodtotalk, you are technically right to say that Tiger's doctors could be wrong, in the same way that my doctors might have been wrong all these years and I do not actually have MS either, despite all the hard factual evidence to the contrary.
But I think it is a little ambitious on your part (to put it charitably) to suggest - as I think you do - that Tiger's problem is quite possibly caused by some vaguely-defined 'syndrome' that you happen to have a bee in your bonnet about. I think newly diagnosed people have enough to deal with without this kind of nonsense, quite frankly.
Alison
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Well said Alison! Goodtotalk also seems to have a misaligned atlas (?!), but not ms/possible ms from what I can gather, so probably isn't best placed to be offering support or advice on this forum? Candida can cause a range of symptoms, but none mimicking ms as far as I'm aware.
Fee,
You have stated repeatedly that you don't have MS and you have been banned from here on several occasions for sharing your usually downright daft theories.
Don't you think newbies have enough to deal with?
Please go away.
I'm not about forcing an opinion on someone, but to give them a choice or opportunity to at least consider it.
I get worried and I'm not talking about you, when others are a bit dictorial and manipulative in what others are allowed to read or consider for themselves.
If I treated my kids like that they would go mad, to presume that I didnt think they are capable of making a decission and I know best, they are 21 and 23. Even my youngest who's 14 knows more than I do on many subjects.
Candida can also cause brain fog, mood swings depression etc. etc.
I dont post info to get a reply, only if I ask a specific question. I post it as information, I have to limit the amount of time that I have to spend on this site, as I have other commitments, its only because I have the time these last couple of days.
What I have learnt over the years is that its not all about medical research only, alternative medicine is very relevant, I have a great respect for it, a great respect indeed.
Hark at me, I dont mean to get all heavy, I suppose what I am trying to say is, people can take it or leave
Alison
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I was diagnosed last year and I am still in denial about it. I spent years convinced there was something wrong with me and then I got the diagnosis and felt so relieved. Now I wonder if maybe they made a mistake. I think its a common response to being diagnosed. Good Luck my lovely x I braved going to a local MS meeting the other day with people who are working aged MS and so met lots of people newly diagnosed like me. I would really recommend it.
Fee,
I don't understand why you are here spouting off about candida and misaligned atlas joints again? You have categorically stated in several forums (including this one) that you do NOT have MS amd even that you don't even believe MS exists as a disease. Please stop confusing the issue for genuine MSers and people going through the diagnostic process who come here seeking information with your own home grown half baked theories.
Or as Anu put it, "Please go away"
LittleTiger, so sorry your post has got hijacked buy this nonsense but your question is perfectly valid and enough to do anyones head in. Vit B12 deficiency is definitely one of the "mimicers" that is looked for in the diagnostic stage as the symptoms can be very similar to MS. But if your MS was diagnosed from the results of an MRI and a Lumbar Puncture I would say that you do have MS (sorry) and also have Vit B12 deficiency as well. Sorry again :-( B12 will cause similar symptoms but it won't cause the changes found on MRI and LP that are characteristic of MS.
I have had MS for 9 years now and I still find myself graspinf=g at starws hoping that the Drs may have got it wrong and I don't really have MS after all. Not sure what else it could be that woud cause all these symptoms and disability but my favourite fantasy is that I don'yt actually have these disabilities eiyher and miraculaously I will eap from my wheel chair because it was all a mistake.... Sadly I think the reality is that I have been taking another of my frequeent holidays in Egypyt; I just love that river De Nile..... And may be that is where you are going with the hope that the Vit B12 deficiency cancels out the MS diagnosis.
hugs to you
Belinda
Thanks so much for your responses, and sorry that I seem to of caused abit of trouble!
Ive been driving myself crazy over the past couple of weeks, and been pretty much attached to the internet looking things up :/
The other thing is, I've just changed neuros (had a few problems with the old one), and the new neuro has just done a new mri scan on me (didnt use contrast) and Im kinda of hoping he'll look at it and say I havent got ms? I asked if he wanted to do another LP and he said no as they got what they needed from that. So does anyone know why he would of done another mri scan?
Im going mad lol
Thanks again x
As others have already said, it's unlikely that your new neuro will say the original diagnosis was wrong especially as it was supported by an mri and a positive lp as well as the symptoms that led you to see a neuro in the first place.
I would imagine that the reason that your new neuro has requested another mri is because you're his patient now. Some neuro's do order additional mri's further down the line too. I think the best thing to do really is to ask him to clarify things for you, but prepare yourself to be told that you do have ms.
The other thing I'd suggest is to try and steer away from googling too much. Sometimes it can cause no end of exra distress which you can well do without at the moment.
It can be just as hard being told and accepting that we have ms as it can be when we're in limboland not knowing what it is. The difference is that sometimes we hold onto that hope that the docs have got it wrong and we haven't got ms at all
Speak to your new neuro L.Tiger to put your mind at rest. Remember where we are if you need to chat
(((hugs)))
Debbie xx